Monday, November 30, 2009

The Dawkins Type

Richard Dawkins- what a stupid asshole.

Not the most scholarly introduction to a post, but it cuts to the chase.

I recently watched an interview with Richard Dawkins in which he talked a little bit about his qualms with faith:

Interviewer: What's wrong, in your opinion, with believing in God?
RD: I think it's false. I think it's a matter of belief without evidence, and as a scientist and an educator I like the idea that we believe things because there's evidence. There's such a lot of evidence available now at the beginning of the twenty-first century that I think it's a real shame- it's a tragedy- to base your life upon something for which there is no evidence and never was any evidence, when the real truth is so wonderful.


This perspective smacks of false assurance, of the ring of irrefutable fact. But might this attitude emerge from mere fancy or prejudice? For Dawkins, "what matters... is the truth." By this, he is of course referring to scientific truths. "What other truths are there, when we are talking about the universe?" he asks with a smile.

But should this be merely a rhetorical question? The fact is that there are other truths besides those which belong to the realm of science and which are empirically demonstrable. Look at a table: what is the table? One scientific answer might be: a collection of wildly fluctuating subatomic particles. This is not what we actually experience, however. Might not the table be an heirloom, the last vestige of your grandfather- that by which you remember him? Might not the table be the place for your newspaper and coffee cup? Might not the table be a gift and sign of love from your mother? Might not the table be the beautiful object that matches the bookshelves and the floor and thus the object which "ties the room together"?

The table could be all or any of these things- but for a human being in the act of living rather than distanced and disinterested inquiry and chatter- for this person, I say, the table is not a collection of subatomic particles, or a reflector of light which sends the waves at this or that frequency into your eyeball. To engage in science is to convert the world around us into something meaningless and entirely counter-intuitive. We cannot walk around living science- indeed, much of what is "true" is only really true for us. So much about my world- what makes sense, what rises me to anger and indignation, what moves me to smile and laugh, what is bewildering and troubling, what I want, what I fear- so much of this is mine and is unshared with a person existing halfway around the world or a dozen centuries separated in time. Why, then, must we seek scientific truth- even if we are not a scientist? How much should we attempt to cobble together, knowing full well that we cannot all learn and take in even the most pathetically small fraction of scientific knowledge out there? And, once we have whatever little scientific understanding we can handle- what, then, should it do for us? Should it make our world friendly to us? Should it make us happy?

For Dawkins, we must seek out truth. More than this, truth must be objective and "absolute"- otherwise it is not truth at all. For the individual, truth is nothing- truth must be that which is agreed upon by all people regardless of historical, social, cultural, or personal context. By Richard's estimation, religion is no more than the gratification of man's need to understand, and thus it formed "before science was fully developed."

One might begin by asking at what point science attained this coveted "full development"- but let's let that pass today. I'm more interested in Dawkins's thought process and where it stops. Scientific, empirically demonstrable truth is important- but why? Of what use is scientific knowledge for the individual existence? To what end are we striving when we seek to understand further and further the workings- grand and subatomic- of the universe? To what end are we striving when we seek to come up with still yet more rigorous explanations of what this or that "really" is? Sure, we can all get together and share in scientific truths- they are beyond refutation and universal. But where does this "will to Truth" (Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil) come from?

If you ask Richard Dawkins- or one of his many equivalents in the world today- "why the truth rather than lie," then he feels no need to answer that question. He is blindly operating from a cultural prejudice of the Western civilization which has been centuries in forming- truth has been defined, and so has lie, and they have been assigned arbitrary values. Dawkins may as well merely grunt "Truth is science, and science is good- all else is lying, and lying is bad."

But what Dawkins cannot seem to respect is the relationship of knowledge to living. What if the ruthless quest for a more and more vivid scientific account of the universe- what if the ruthless quest for greater and greater technological development (the two go hand-in-hand)- what if all of this were leading to a miserable world, a horrible place to live? What if it left the world stripped of all human meaning and utterly hostile to all human needs and pleas? Why should we equate progress with science when we have no goal in mind and we know not where we will ultimately end up? Why should objectivity and its promise of a shared and unbending vision be seen as something liberating rather than oppressive?

As it turns out, Richard Dawkins does not ask any of these questions. He thinks that "the real truth is so wonderful"- great for him. But he has reduced Christianity to a collection of myths taken down two thousand years ago. Perhaps Dawkins should think a bit more about the value of mythology, of literature, of fiction- one begins at some point to see that, so far as actual living is concerned, something truly baffling and unexpected happens: empirically demonstrable scientific data confuses and fiction clarifies and reveals truth.

I am not now a Christian, and I may never be. Nonetheless, I read the Bible- because humanity is unfolded in it. I also read poets and novelists, and partake of other arts as well- because they reveal truth. They give meaning and significance to my existence, and this is not- as Richard Dawkins would like to think- a retreat into blindness and ignorance for the sake of "consolation." This is truth. Those who mock the Bible, those who write off as a waste of time the reading of the poets- they may be happy, and that is good. But they have a narrow and highly prejudiced notion of "truth" and I will never share it with them.

Truth is different in every mind, and in every mind it is different in every moment- it does not have to be agreed upon.

Indeed, when you try to force one truth over all of humanity- not for any practical purpose like the preservation of the species or the keeping of the peace- then you are attempting to master and oppress humanity. As Blake once wrote: "One Law for the Lion and the Ox is Oppression." The project of a Richard Dawkins is to limit truth to science, to call all else fiction and delusion, and then to make the arbitrary and culturally-constructed (not scientific!) leap of attaching to that delusion the value of "bad." The Dawkins type would like to mock as fools those who are not willing be mastered by science, which is basically to surrender to the irrational and "human, all-too-human" impulse to make all of humanity the same whatever ways possible. Those violent and loud-mouthed atheists- do not let them bully you any more than any other authority figure from the realm of religion or politics. It's all the same, and it's all bullshit.

Science is not progress, nor is technology, nor is anything else. They can be for the individual, I suppose- but do not think that it's necessary by any means. If human history is a ship at sea, then it has no captain and it is going nowhere in particular- it never has been. Science and technology are mere contrivances which serve to give us a "Truth and Progress Delusion." But if they are to be considered markers of our progress, then we must attach certain values to them- and that is the subjective leap which goes unnoticed. That is has been so thoroughly carved into us that we often cannot come to realize the artifice, the arbitrary nature of it- and so we think we have our objectivity when we are merely locked in an invisible subjectivity.

I had hoped to make this a defense of relgion: so one last word. I see no reason to shy away from the subjective and the irrational. We are not goverend by reason, and the things which make our lives worth living are often private- they can only be shared so far, sometimes not at all. To the credit of Richard Dawkins, he is largely complaining about organized religion- and I can go with him on that. But he sees nothing else in religion, no other potential. That is merely because he has found his own religion- science. It explains the universe for him, and that makes him comfortable and happy. But I think that he- and all atheists- have unwittingly sought that end over all else, and so they cannot insist on their own religion and subjective set of values- subjective reality, if you will- without becoming hypocrites.

7 comments:

  1. Interesting post. There's a lot here that would make for a good night of conversation.

    I'm especially interested by one claim: "empirically demonstrable scientific data confuses and fiction clarifies and reveals truth." Does scientific data really confuse truth? I'll acknowledge that certain domains of scientific inquiry have as a prerequisite to understanding a certain threshold of expertise such that the typical nonscientist would be confused by their findings. If that's all you're saying, then I agree. But it seems that beyond that threshold, the conclusions drawn by science are no more confusing or complex than ordinary observations we make everyday (like that we feel as if the table ties the room together). Ultimately, the scientific process simply amounts to a collection of observations and theoretical attempts at explanation (i.e., 'unconfuse' them). Maybe I'm missing situations in which science confuses. Examples for the dullard, please.

    Similarly, I'm interested by the claim that art can do a better job at revealing truth. Actual 'truths', if they exist are, by definition, things that exist for everyone, whereas art is inherently interpretable and subjective. Even if truth isn't found 'in' art, I could see how experiencing art can alter one's interpretation or experience of observed phenomena. Still, any 'truth' derived by this process relies on prior observation in the 'scientific' way. But maybe not... I'm not disagreeing so strongly on this second part, I just found it interesting.


    I realize this wasn't the thrust of your post, and I agree with your general sentiment. We should talk about more of this over break though.

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  2. I don't want to speak for Doug, but I think truth is being used with two definitions without clarification aside from context- absolute truth, truth that is for all man in all situations, and the more sublime notion of truth that is more or less meaningful explanation for the individual. Or I could be totally wrong.

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  3. I think you are exactly right Kevin. The way that AF, whom I will blindly assume is Adam until I am explicitly corrected, is speaking of truth is, to me, clearly different from the way Doug is talking about it. Doug makes the claim in his post that the individual experiences truths uniquely. I agree with this. Certainly there are many truths that are experienced by the individual that have no bearing whatsoever on the rest of mankind. The relationship between loved ones, fondness for this or that kind of music, food, or experience, these are all truths in the individual sense that do not pertain to all mankind. It is true that I like pepperoni pizza, but who else gives a shit? Does that make it any less a truth? I'm only using this as a perhaps grossly oversimplified example. As to your questioning of the statement "empirically demonstrable scientific data confuses and fiction clarifies and reveals truth," I obviously have no idea what Doug was thinking about when he wrote that, but I think what you said about scientific data being meaningless to most people without special knowledge is correct. Furthermore, while you seem to think that is unimportant (again, I have no idea what you actually think), in the context of Doug's apparent belief in the individual truth, I think it is clear how it supports his point. The gathering of scientific observations and explanations does little to influence most individual truth, while works of art and fiction are often attempting to convey individual truths directly or indirectly. I have no idea if that is what Doug was getting at, but that is kind of how I can see it working.

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  4. I may not even know what I was talking about.

    Really, science and literature both can be said to clarify- but in very different ways.

    Science tends to offer a single, irrefutable explanation of phenomena in the universe (from distant galaxies to the human brain) but I would argue that this is not ultimately satisfying to human needs.

    It's interesting that we seek reduction- everything must be rational, reasonable, logical, unambiguous and lacking contradiction- and yet that is not true to human experience at all.

    Perhaps I am atypical, but I think I can speak for humans in general when I say that we are not, at bottom, logical and rational beings. We cannot ultimately follow a single vision without conflict of some kind- we are constantly struggling between contradictory impulses and we often find ourselves overcome by moods and feelings which, once scrutinized logically, ought to be silly (yet aren't and continue to hold us until they make their exit- often for mysterious reasons).

    Science shows us the world in abstract and absolute terms, much as it is without our existing or having values or emotions or conflict- in other words, how the universe looks to something that isn't human, how the universe exists for nobody at all.

    Art shows us the world through human imagination, giving us a world that can matter to us and have grounds for feelings and actions- not just cold explanations of feelings and actions.

    My concern is not to damn science- rather, I want to stress that a religious account of existence is not occupying the same realm as a scientific account, and thus there should be no conflict. I'm not saying this merely in the hopes of placating everybody- I'm saying this in order to save (if possible) sensitive and imaginative reading from the clutches of scientific thinking. If we fail to see the difference between imaginative expressions of the world and scientific ones- if we think they are mutually exclusive- then we have failed to see them appropriately.

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  5. You're all wrong. A table is the thing onto which I place my dinner bucket.

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  6. Speaking as both a fan of science and a Christian, I can say that while science is very interesting, it offers nothing in way of explanation of the human experience.
    Doug said "Science shows us... how the universe looks to something that isn't human, how the universe exists for nobody at all." And so really, what is this scientific truth to us humans if it exists completely independently of us? It can be fun, curious and mind-boggling to the point that it sends shivers down your spine. It IS wonderful, as Dawkins said. But it is not the HUMAN truth. What gives our lives meaning as human beings has nothing to do with subatomic particles, black holes, quarks, gluons, etc. Truly I think Doug summed it up in his final paragraph that if we think that there can only be one truth-- scientific or religious (human), then we are essentially dead wrong. They are completely separate. When Richard Dawkins buys his wife a Christmas present, does he think "This will make her neurons fire in such a way I'll get some tonight."? Okay, well maybe he does. But almost certainly he thinks more of what will make her happy, what will remind her of her childhood, what will make her not make him sleep on the couch that night. These emotions, feelings and impulses are what drive us and what drives humanity. This is what lies in the depths of our soul; this is what technology cannot possibly replicate. Any idiot can't deny scientific proof in front of his face; Dawkins is no genius simply because he has access to the information and the IQ to comprehend it. (I should also note that I think it equally ridiculous when certain religions or religious people make completely ignore scientific truths-- like God put dinosaur bones to trick us, etc... I think there is a middle ground somewhere. Don’t confuse me with those nutcases).

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  7. But now for a religious note... As someone who recently converted to Catholicism (and Christianity-- I wasn't really brought up anything in particular), I was fully expecting to memorize church rules and doctrine. But to my surprise what I learned was—gasp—Christianity is basically about being a good person. What a concept. That Christ sure was a nice guy—the nicest, in fact! Which is harder: understanding the laws of thermodynamics, or loving your enemies? When you think about the people who really moved you and positively influenced your life, was it because of how much they knew and understood about physics, calculus, or shucking clams—or was it their works of good will and their character and morals? I do believe that truth, like beauty, is in the eye and heart of the beholder. But I believe there are common themes that almost all of humanity share, like the very broad triumph of good over evil and the disdain for lies and deceit. What many people share (although getting in the more grey territory) would include things like respect for human life. But of course, with issues such as war, death penalties and abortion, clearly not everybody shares exact same opinion; that is where boundaries are drawn between different religions and individual moral codes. Religion can be unifying in these ways with these tenets. It can also be divisive. Science can hardly be either—sure, different scientists can take sides with different schools of thought over certain issues, but at the end of the day the points they ponder make no difference in anybody’s life. (I’m talking theoretical science here, not practical or technological—though as Doug said, who says more technology is better?)
    Religion can be bad when used incorrectly, but so can anything. As a friend of mine once said to me regarding Catholicism in the light of recent scandals (and she even put it in a musical context so I could understand), “I can’t play the clarinet at all. If you sent me to some people who had never heard Mozart before and had me perform the Mozart Clarinet Concerto, they would say “Woah! Mozart sucks!” when in fact Mozart wrote some of the best music ever. It’s just that I don’t know how to play it.” So too we should not judge any religion based on people who practice it incorrectly—like the curmudgeonly old ladies who pray the rosary for hours but will bitch you out in the church parking lot if you take their spot. Being a Christian—the right way—is very hard work and takes much discipline. It is an act of faith and an even bigger act of will to do the right things at the right times. Even if you don’t believe that anything in the bible actually happened, or that Jesus was nothing more than a long-haired hippie, what is the harm in doing good to others, loving your enemies, and turning the other cheek? Sometimes I think that atheists get so locked into being oppositional, they forget what it is they are fighting.

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